UK Liberty

Hmm, who to believe?

Posted in politicians on liberty by ukliberty on February 18, 2009

The Telegraph (149 related items):

Dame Stella Rimington, the former head of MI5, has warned that the fear of terrorism is being exploited by the Government to erode civil liberties and risks creating a police state.

The Telegraph:

Mr McNulty, a former police minister in the Home Office, said: “I have enormous respect for the work and experience of Dame Stella Rimington but I think on this she is totally and utterly wrong.

“Wrong to suggest that had all the things we planned been passed we’d have been a police state, and wrong to suggest we have somehow stumbled towards a police state.

“This is very, very strong language and I think, in this particular regard, abject nonsense.” …

He said the Government had got the right balance between civil liberties and security and there was a “strong tradition of civil liberties in this country and one we cherish”.

He added: “Sadly I think talk, misguided talk, by informed commentators such as Stella Rimington, talking about a police state in any regard in the UK, does the job that she is accusing us of potentially doing.

“We are nowhere near a police state and Dame Stella will know that.

“Even to use such language so loosely plays in to the hands of our enemies. Of course we should have a full and frank debate, but to use such terms does not help the debate at all.”

Stella Rimington’s background, according to Wikipedia:

Between 1969 and 1990, Rimington worked in all three branches of the Security Service: counter espionage, counter subversion, and counter terrorism. … In 1990, she was promoted to one of the Service’s two Deputy Director-General positions, where she oversaw MI5’s move to Thames House. In December 1991, she made a visit to Moscow to make the first friendly contact between the British intelligence services and their old enemies, now allies, the KGB. On her return from Russia, she was told she had been promoted to Director-General.

Tony McNulty’s background, according to Wikipedia:

Tony McNulty was educated at the Salvatorian College on High Street in Wealdstone and at Stanmore Sixth Form College on Elm Park in Stanmore. He obtained a BA in Political Theory and Institutions from the University of Liverpool and an MA in Political Science from Virginia Tech in the United States. Before becoming an MP he was leader of the Labour group on Harrow council and a senior lecturer in Organisational Behaviour, at the University of North London from 1983-97. [then became an MP]




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  1. Lee Griffin said, on February 19, 2009 at 1:03 am

    “Even to use such language so loosely plays in to the hands of our enemies.”

    More than doing their job for them through fear and oppression on the public at large?

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