If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear
Update 2
Because no-one would ever misuse the data or make a mistake, right?
Update 1
The article below I think can be written more simply as follows:
The contention that if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear presupposes that those with access to information will not abuse it, whether on behalf of themselves for (say) curiosity or money, or on behalf of the state.
Unfortunately there is plenty of precedent to suggest otherwise, ranging from individual abuses to the facilitation of mass abuse, such as by the Stasi, or those committing genocide.
That is why even those who think they have nothing to hide may in fact have something to fear.
Old article
Do you use some sort of cover for your windows – curtains, or blinds?
Would you be irritated or upset if you discovered someone had eavesdropped on your phone conversations or read your personal correspondence without your permission?
Do you prefer your medical records to remain confidential between you and your doctor?
Do you prefer to keep your vote secret from others?
It seems to me that most people would answer ‘yes’ to such questions, even if they might find it difficult to articulate why.
For example, I can’t explain exactly why I close my curtains at night. I’m not particularly concerned about being spied upon by CCTV operators – I just feel uncomfortable with people in general looking in. But I don’t commit crimes, so what do I have to hide?
What expectations of privacy do you have? What are you prepared to make known to others – what are you prepared to ‘trade-off’ – in order to gain a particular benefit?
Suppose it was proposed that crime could be almost completely eradicated if there was a CCTV camera and microphone and loudspeaker in every room of every home.
Would you support such a proposal?
If it saves the life of just one child it will be worth it, won’t it?
There was a poll (68Kb gif, Telegraph/YouGov) that showed some differences of opinion between people on aspects of the ‘surveillance society’. For example, 97% of the public supported the use of CCTV in banks, and 93% in trains and buses – but only 65% supported CCTV in taxis.
Why?
Another example: 50% supported the introduction of a system of identity cards to Britain, but only 16% approved of identity cards being used to track everyone’s movements.
Why?
What about the proposal that NHS medical records – by far the most popular topic on this blog – should be centrally stored? Many people are concerned about what information will be stored, who will have access to it, what it will be used for, and so on. Concerned enough to read blogs such as this and click through the links to other articles.
Why?
This issue is about where we as individuals draw the line: we each have different expectations of privacy; different concerns about what we prefer to keep to ourselves, what we are willing to trade, and what we don’t particularly mind people knowing.
And it’s about the use and misuse of the data that is associated with you. Unfortunately we don’t live in a utopia: sometimes people make mistakes; sometimes people are dishonest, others are evil. There is certainly a case for rational distrust.
We therefore need to consider the risks involved with entrusting our private information to others – weighing up the pros and cons as best we can. How can mistakes and abuses be prevented? What are the likelihoods of mistakes and abuses? How can the effects of mistakes and abuses be mitigated? What legal remedies will be available to us?
But some people want to deny us those choices.
I don’t believe they have malign intentions.
They believe they know best: they claim it is in your best interests, and/or the best interests of society as a whole.
But they hinder us from gathering as much information we can about their proposals. After all, how can we come to an informed decision if we are unaware of the facts?
And the rules are such that it is difficult if not impossible to make our choices ourselves.
Sometimes they are even dishonest about their plans.
In conclusion, the claim that “if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear” is, at best, ignorant, and at worst, dishonest.
It is a much more complicated issue than can be summed up in those eleven words, or even an article of this length.
We need to improve education on the pros and cons of surveillance, the database state, individual proposals, and other issues relating to privacy.
When a privacy infringing measure is proposed, we each need to consider what we are willing to trade away in order to save money, prevent crime, prevent terrorism, reduce illegal immigration and working – or whatever is among the benefits of the proposal.
And we need to consider removing from power those people who seek to deny us choice about what we want to keep private and how private we want to keep it.
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And of those people who like to parrot the ‘nothing to hide’ mantra, have you ever encountered any who can actually substantiate the reasoning for this assertion of faith?
My own background is considered by many as being ‘suspiciously clean’. I’m frequently in the position of not wishing to expose the fact that I have nothing to hide, as it were. I pay my taxes, I don’t break the law – I’m even nice to people if I can be – and yet the government seems to think that the only reason for my clean record is that they weren’t watching closely enough. And as you say, they actively resist any reciprocal scrutiny.
Sure, people see me walking along the street – but at least they have the good manners not to take notes!
“And of those people who like to parrot the ‘nothing to hide’ mantra, have you ever encountered any who can actually substantiate the reasoning for this assertion of faith?”
Well, they haven’t substantiated it to my satisfaction!
It seems a specious argument.
I don’t intend to seem pompous here, but I think for most people it is born from ignorance, and for other people – such as those in Government – it is born from dishonesty.
After all, if the Government admits to any risk at all, the public will have doubt in the proposal. This doubt may be partially or even wholly unwarranted, but I don’t believe that is reason for dishonesty – it is reason for education.
Unfortunately the Government seems too paternalist.
Thank you for commenting.
Regards,
ukliberty
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the data abuses reported are a serious misconduct by officals trusted by those who seek the trust,as to fear the data abuses well theres only one way to deal with it its to, commit suicide,thats what your facing in your future ,because beleive it or not, its not policing ,if its the police, that is giving you data abuse like it is me,its not serving a purpose if you reduced to not being able to work with the public anymore,as a bus driver with a 10 year career behind me,formally clean until 2002,then abused by robo copt,who introduced it all,a bent copt,who not only ,is abusive to the words crb disclosure,and to asbo itself,by adbmitting to 14 allegations of police corruption, you have nothing to fear as long as even though you lost a high profile job because of corruption in a police force ,nobody wanted to investigate it thoroughly because of the threats of being involved,robo copt the defective detective.
it is blair that introduced the nothing to fear legacy then after operation lancett went off to a brighter future,and being a northerner,left northeast in a state of resession,its only the north that suffers the consequences of a bad mayor in middlesbrough,who in his own veiws should not be dioing a job involving the vulnerable cause he admitted 14 offences of abusing the vulnerable he continued to abuse the vulnerable by allowing bus companies to advertise children on the sides of buses as asbo kids,when under aged kids should have been protected by law,heres a saying ,the fences around schools are there to protect them ,putting corruption in middlesbrough at the hands of a corrupt mayor is asking a criminal to be a mayor,im more entitled to be mayor i have 4 on my crb disclosure ,all based on hearsay and without evidence convicted to the point i might as well kill myself ,
criminals under labour LABOUR DID THIS TO ME RAY MALLONS CLEVELAND POLICE COLLEGUES,SINCE THE ARREST AND ASSAULT IN CELLS AT SOUTHBANK POLICE STATION BY 8 OFFICERShas imposed on me since his new job as mayor in 2002/3
NO SOLICITOR WILL PROPERLY DEFEND ME,
in a CLOSED crown court case without a jury on th 15th febuary,
ERIMUS THREATS OF EVICTIONS 17 FEBUARYa letter was sent applying for eviction today,13feb.
FOR DEBTS, i cannot pay because the police falsly accused me in a crb disclosure fo 8 years,ipcc upheld this complaint,… See More… See More… See More… See More… See More… See More… See More
IPCC UPHELD,my complaints that police falsly arrested me and detained me,
POLICE stopped me working for 8years,
POLICE interfered with evidence in all cases against me,
21TIMES arrested for allegations of crimes,hearsay,NO CONVICTIONS OF ANY,
POLICE interfered with the course of justice,lost and tampered with evidence,
POLICE apposed my claims for cica injuries,groin,jaw,head,denied that a crime took place,THEN ADMITTED id been assaulted at a cica tribunal hearing.
POLICE held me for 11 hours in cells,denied me medical attention,
ALL SINCE 2002,when ray mallon took over as mayor of middlesbrough,
THE SAME MAYOR who admitted 14 out of 400 allegations,
THE SAME MAYOR,whos crb dsiclosures should contain 400 offences,
THE SAME MAYOR,who still works with the vulnerable,
THE SAME MAYOR,cost middlesbrough 8 million in operation lancett enquiree,
THE SAME MAYOR,who had the allegations made whilst he was a police officer,detective,or cheif superintendant,
RAY MALLON, harrassed ME and my family,
RAY MALLON,has the access to all he implimented towards me with the 5 executive in charge of all government offices in cleveland,
RAY MALLON,abused my human rights to live,
ALL OF which has lead to my detriment and standing as an unemployed person,who has no future in middlesbrough where ive lived all my life,
it has been a harrowing,harrassed,intimidating,stressfull,fight to clear my name in the crb disclosures government process to try and get justice that no mp or newspapers will take on board,fighting government processes and a criminal mayor with access to all he imposed on me,with too much power
BURGLAR WRECKS HOME 14 JUNE 2010 GAZETTE,a year of 10 court cases,18/20 witnesses named in court transcripts but did not turn up at court,
sg4 radiator blood (only evidence)found at the scene of damage
trainers found at 155 marshal ave,used as evidence against the convicted person on 13may2010
convicted person lived at 155 palister ave ,
green forensics stated he sent the forensics blood sg4 to northormesby,
22march09,pacey stated she deleivered the sg4/sg3/sg5 blood samples to hq ladgate lane,at 1445 on 23march09,
crawford dc that stated he never went into damaged scene of crime,stated he had the sg4 blood sample on 23march09 between 1739-1817,and that he sent it off to forensics,he also stated at the same time that it was the blood of the convicted person found on the radiator on the 23 march at 1817,23march before forensics received the sample sg4,
sg3/sg5 dissapeared
sg4 was the only sample against the convicted which found him guilty on 13may2010,
why did dc chaytor not give any statements in court as the officer involved with the case,
why does dc crawfords statements contradict greens statemants asto who sent sg4 to forensics
why didnt the forensics turn up at court to give evidence
why didnt the prosecution give the defence requested information to the defence when judge told them to do so on 15 feb2010
why did only 4 witnesses turn up at court,
why wasnt my solicitor freers allowed to give evidence of corruption in cleveland police force
ray mallon by whatever means, had his full criminal history cleared by cleveland police force england,on 13may2010,his attempts to hide the case of operation lancett charges brought against him over 400 charges as a civilian he stood for mayor with the helpof mps of this government,and now stands for an election again in 2011,ray mallon admitted 14 offences of wrong doing as a clevleland police officer for which was ignored by all involved costing middlesbrough millions before the iraq war ,and tony blair
Neil Scott convicted on Blood taken 48hours after,4miles away from a crime,taken at a police station not at a crime scene as police in cleveland stated at court ,the CPS prosecutions OWN witnesses acted against police stating neil is innocent yet judge MOSES dismissed it and suppressed it from public veiw,only in Middlesbrough
Neil Scott convicted on Blood taken 48hours after,4miles away from a crime,taken at a police station not at a crime scene as police in cleveland stated at court ,the CPS prosecutions OWN witnesses acted against police stating Neil Scott is innocent yet judge MOSES royal courts of justice,london, dismissed it and suppressed it from public view,only in Middlesbrough,the judges involved should be jailed,its abuse of position in public authority,which can only be deemed as an abuse of human rights,interference with the course of justice perjury,treason
Neil Scott £160,800 Burglar with out Motive or stolen items,I am definitely one of those people with nothing to Hide,for ten years of Ray Mallon and Cleveland police persecution listed on my. @wordpressdotcom site. wp.me/p2euOV-4 there’s no site like it,on twitter. @lauraneiltina2 we uncovered corruption in the police force detectives in which Blood was taken from a victim of police brutality,at a police station 72 hours after a crime and 4 miles away from a crime and was stated it was found at a Burglary when there OWN witnessses for the prosecution stated that it was taken by themselves at the station and falsified by the officers of Cleveland police force,crime solved on twitter by use of the WordPress sites,brilliant take a look and twitter it if you like it ,I can truly sAy I have Nothing to Hide