Comments on: Senior cop questions terrorism stop-and-search http://ukliberty.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/senior-cop-questions-terrorism-stop-and-search/ A blog on issues relating to liberty in the UK. "I take the view that it is part of being a good citizen, proving who you are, day in day out" - Andy Burnham, Home Office Minister. "Unfortunately we were unable to maintain the legislation which we wanted to do which would give us the power to detain people [without trial].” - Tony Blair, Prime Minister. "we should see an identity card, like a passport, in country, if you like" - Meg Hillier, Home Office Minister. "People who hope to be due for re-election in two years’ time are not the best people to trust with the liberty of the individual." Alistair Carmichael MP Wed, 10 Apr 2013 03:47:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Where are our MPs? « UK Liberty http://ukliberty.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/senior-cop-questions-terrorism-stop-and-search/#comment-10574 Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:37:51 +0000 http://ukliberty.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/senior-cop-questions-terrorism-stop-and-search/#comment-10574 [...] But people aren’t only stopped on the basis of reasonable suspicion – there is, for example, a rolling authorisation granted every 28 days to make the entire London metropolitan police district an area where people may be stopped and searched under s44 Terrorism Act 2000. (Andy Hayman, a senior counter-terrorism officer at the time, questioned the value of it.) [...]

]]> By: David Mery http://ukliberty.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/senior-cop-questions-terrorism-stop-and-search/#comment-15 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:00:18 +0000 http://ukliberty.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/senior-cop-questions-terrorism-stop-and-search/#comment-15 Available at either:

http://www.acpo.police.uk/asp/policies/Data/Stop%20&%20Search_2005_22x12x05.pdf

or

http://www.acpo.police.uk/asp/policies/Data/mackey_Stop%20&%20Search_2005_22x12x05.pdf

If the comment facility makes these two links non workable, just search for “interim” on http://gizmonaut.net/bits/profiling.html and click the link.

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]]> By: ukliberty http://ukliberty.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/senior-cop-questions-terrorism-stop-and-search/#comment-14 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:05:42 +0000 http://ukliberty.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/senior-cop-questions-terrorism-stop-and-search/#comment-14 Many thanks Mr Mery. Unfortunately something appears to have gone wrong with your second from last link.

]]> By: David Mery http://ukliberty.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/senior-cop-questions-terrorism-stop-and-search/#comment-13 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 02:52:11 +0000 http://ukliberty.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/senior-cop-questions-terrorism-stop-and-search/#comment-13 [You may want to delete the preceding comment and use this one instead - with the links that disappeared reinserted -d]

I’ve collected a few more figures that may interest you at
http://gizmonaut.net/bits/propaganda.html and
http://gizmonaut.net/blog/innocent/FOI_Kendall.html (The PDF you link to is for the financial year 2004/5, the same document for the FY 2005/6 doesn’t seem to have been released yet!)

Regarding your rhetorical question: “I have to wonder if the police really believe that hecklers and protestors would be carrying articles that could be used in connection with terrorism”, you have to consider what the Police may construe to be such articles. As I have experienced and heard from others anything that can be considered to identify a place will be defined by the Police as “hostile reconnaissance”. Such items include doodles
http://gizmonaut.net/bits/suspect.html#items , child maps
http://gizmonaut.net/blog/uk/child_map.html ,photographs, sketches, videos, etc.
http://gizmonaut.net/bits/profiling.html

A related point which is rarely made is that in designated zones, the Police has the choice to conduct stop and searches under PACE or under S.44, The former needs reasonable suspicion and is monitored by the MPA while the latter doesn’t require any reasonable cause and is not monitored by anyone.
http://gizmonaut.net/bits/suspect.html#20060622

Other documents that may interest you:
ACPU issued interim practice advice on Stop and Search in relation to the TA2000:
http://www.acpo.police.uk/asp/policies/Data/Stop%20&%20Search_2005_22×12×05.pdf
Home Office issued Stop and Search manual:
http://www.apa.police.uk/NR/rdonlyres/CF9041FA-37B8-499F-AB3F-C7F7F9CBA169/0/StopandSearchbkmk.pdf

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